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Ramona McCloskey's avatar

I don't disagree with anything here, however I feel I have to point out a possible issue with the language used. "Short-termism" could easily be seen as having "long-termism" as its counterpart, and at first glance it looks like that's it, the perfect term to explain that we need to take the future impact of our "solutions" into account and stop pursuing behaviours that feel like a short-lasting band aid. Not so.

Many people are still unfamiliar with the term, but longtermism is now an established name for a rather sinister ideology that became almost quasi-religious in its nature; a playground for the most rotten multi billionaires who hide behind so-called "effective altruism" while they're pursuing endless growth and dictate the future of the planet. It's not a worldview that endorses genuine ways of softening the blow of climate change and creating a viable future through decisions that are nature-led, quite the opposite, its ultimate goal is transhumanism. It's a deeply technocratic ideology that promotes human supremacy over nature.

That's why language matters and we always have to be careful not to imply that we pursue "longtermism." In short, the adherents of longtermism are the people who got us and the planet into this mess and are firmly keeping us in it through their dehumanising, extractivist policies. Suffices to say one of the insanely rich people who endorse "longtermism" is Elon Musk, which should ring alarm bells to us all.

This is a good overview of longtermism from Emile P. Torres, "Understanding "longtermism": Why this suddenly influential philosophy is so toxic." He postulates that "...Whatever we may "owe the future," it isn't a bizarre and dangerous ideology fueled by eugenics and capitalism."

https://www.salon.com/2022/08/20/understanding-longtermism-why-this-suddenly-influential-philosophy-is-so/

I'm glad you've mentioned Roman Krznaric here as he's not an adherent of longtermism. His is a good book and sometimes his chosen language ("long term thinking") is sadly taken to be a part of the longtermism school of thought. That's not the case and Krznaric's stance is far more humane and in the now, I see it more as a set of short-term steps to aid long-term future. I read a book review that compared Krznaric's book to a longtermist book (can't remember the author and title for the life of me!) and said that compared to longtermists who think in terms of thousands, even millions and billions of years, Krznacic is barely a "presentist."

Krznaric said of Torres (who wrote extensively against longtermism; I'd recommend browsing his articles and reading his book "Human Extinction"): "I'm in broad agreement with the critiques in Torres's article, especially the downplaying of climate risk. I've made some of same critiques of existential risk/effective altruism/'longtermism' in public talks e.g here (starts 31:30)" and he linked this podcast: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/common-room-philosophy/episodes/How-to-be-a-Good-Ancestor-Thinking-and-Acting-for-the-Future--with-Roman-Krznarik-ej70rn

Krznaric's concept of "one planet thriving" which he describes are "the opposite of economic growth" is great, a summary of how nature-led ways of living should work.

I hope I didn't digress too much here. Wishing you a great day

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Kate MacGillivary's avatar

Indeed, wonderful article and I like your “open-mind” thinking. Everything seems very black and white today. Love the question, “Are you being a good ancestor?”, that’s going to resonate with me and I think I’ll start saying it.

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